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Feb. 18, 2024

Year Five - Episode 1 Pt 1

This week we bring back someone from our past to discuss the changes that have occurred over the past 5 years - both in life and in general. Join us as we just enjoy and have fun celebrating five years of this little experiment.

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This week we bring back someone from our past to discuss the changes that have occurred over the past 5 years - both in life and in general. Join us as we just enjoy and have fun celebrating five years of this little experiment.

Use Your Words podcast is passion project of two people from Southeastern Wisconsin. Please consider checking out the below links to learn/hear more. And join us every week for new episodes!

Linktree: https://bit.ly/uywlinktree

Visit our website: https://useyourwords.cc

Listen to the podcast on all of your devices: https://useyourwordspod.captivate.fm/listen

Watch On Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@useyourwords

Send us an email: https://www.useyourwords.cc/contact

Read the blog: https://www.useyourwords.cc/blog

Transcript

This week we bring back the unstable Tempest, the chaos storm of all storms, the thing that has derailed many a countries and many a conversation we bring back for our five year anniversary. Josh mister Brewer himself. Smile and wave. Wave like this is a beauty pageant which this. If this was a beauty pageant, you'd be winning between the three of us. If I heard you right, you said I disrupt countries, you disrupt everything. Yes, we we just get you on a a rant and wind you up and let you go. 

Yeah, that'll happen. Yes, it will happen. that's the thing on and off the camera. 

that's why I said The bringer of storms, the master of chaos. The conversation that never ends. Yeah, the the originator of, if you think about it. 

Yeah, that, that that definitely stings different when you're here. Why does that stings differently when i'm here? Like that phrase is more annoying when you're here. 

I haven't said it yet. I know, I know that. So you broke the ice on that one. So the last time we recorded and I kind of alluded to the fact that you'd be coming back and i'd made sure to sneak in the phrase for aaron 's sake. If you think about it, then it caused him to react as such as as such as it is, i'm that i'm traumatized by that phrase. 

Thank you. I tell my Co workers, don't give me ammo. If you think about it, he'll just use it over and over again as soon as he has the ammo. 

Wow, you're five. We made it too. And like I said, brought back the chaos of Josh. As you saw right there in those first few moments. Moments selected moments. By the time you see this, not everything that was actually recorded will make it out there. 

The rest of that will be saved for private release at a certain time in the future. To the highest bidder, of course. No, To very specific people. they've already been selected. Oh, OK And who? What then? After that, We can do it. Do you know who's sending stuff to if things continue on the course and they do ultimately end up resulting in, Oh yeah, What you want? Yeah. Then yes. Oh, my gosh. Wait, you know who are family, Dude, it's not that hard, dude. I know how to find things. it's on the Internet. The Internet lives forever. We all of her family has, oh, all of her family 's on there. I only need a couple of the family, that's true. To get the rest, he only needs one name. 

We we a few coworkers, coworkers, and I, you know, after that, that thing you sent me on on Rumble, I was talking to them about it and I was like, you know, I was talking like, it's crazy how you know all this information is out there. And one of my coworkers went ahead and paid for a basic subscription to a website and she put in my first name, middle initial, last name, ninety percent correct. Insane. Absolutely scary insane. And even free. I can find family members and how they're related and all that. All right, so after this, what's contact number? After this? I want you. I want you to look it up, OK I want you to. i'm not buying one of those subscriptions because in order to buy it you have to put your information in which validates the information they have on the website. 

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think, I think outside of federal servers that should be illegal. It should not be I, I get public information, but the consolidation of that information, consolidation of public information on an individual or property. So it should be so interesting you bring that up, right. there's VPN for services like Surf Shark for example, not sponsored where you can pay them for two years of VPN service plus some other stuff. And part of the service is they'll go out and they'll find like all those public record companies and delete your data from it. 

But you got to pay so much it's like maybe a couple hundred for two years of it. Well see the hard part is it's like I I can obviously we're Racine County, right. And in Racine County, you have the ability of going online and I can see anybody and everybody that is owned. This house that we're in right now all the way up until the the date that it was, it was made and obviously there's been different bills that have been passed and requirements of keeping data. But as soon as you hit crossover that two thousand any and all permits that get pulled, that's public record people 's information emails, you know that's all public. So even if you do pay a company to do that, the information will get reconsolidated again. There. there's some data they can't pull. Legally. Yeah, Legally. Yes, legally. And you talk about what was it the FBI just got pulled into a ringer about that where they bought information illegally. 

And it doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah, but sorry, Aaron. We had a little fun at your expense earlier on. You just gave us a when we continued rolling with good laughter. Good laughter indeed. Thank you. Thank you. The chaos that embroils when we get Josh involved again happened so quickly. Yeah, it just happened so quickly, So naturally, So effortlessly. Yes. Yep. It doesn't help that you go ahead and confirm some of the data for us as we're going wrong. I don't even realize it. that's the scary part. that's the best part. No, that's just the best for you. it's Yeah. Sorry. 

Yeah, so. So yes, it is February twenty twenty four which is hard to believe. we're already at this point. And this little experiment started back in February twenty nineteen that's crazy. 

That is just crazy. And Josh was with us for the first couple years there and then he decided, Nope, i'm going to be a family man. And left. Yep. Got married. Went back to school. 

Yeah. Did all that fun stuff. it's now. And I wanted to be even more of a family man. Yeah, look at you contributing to the society and the population of the future going forward, which not a lot of people are doing nowadays, actually. No, there's some countries out there that are actually trying to pay people to have kids and they're being reluctant on doing it. that's why I kind of say, you know, on my behalf, you two are going to have to make up my two point five kids or whatever between the two of you. Which is why josh 's going to have Triplets and aaron 's going to have ten No, I mean jan 's going to have to get a better job, a lot better of a job. Well, i'll just live off the government. Speaking of which, how many jobs have you had in the past five years? 

I don't want to talk about it. No, i'm i'm serious. Just one past five years. Well, hang on that. That includes transfers in the same company. Yeah, let's let's Job changes. Title changes. let's include that, Ricardo. that's who your overhead is. 

OK Just same position. Everything. Why? Wow. Not much has changed for you in the past five years. Outside of the girlfriend. 

Yeah, OK Cinnamon. Cinnamon. In a minute. i'm trying to guess the flavor. So mint. 

Mint. No. Incorrect. Both. Both incorrect. Yes. Vanilla. No. Apple. Nope. Apple. All right. No, we're guessing right now. we'll come back, get around to it, or i'll just ask her. No, I want you to figure it out, OK All right. 

Interesting. Anywho, Josh, how many jobs have you had since five years ago, February twenty nineteen Since twenty nineteen one two three four four four jobs four jobs all right that's actually pretty good three different companies twice a night right oh yeah. three different companies twice in the same company oh wow OK so me jeez louise OK here we go in five oh jeez yeah five in five years OK so i started at one company in one position they were just about to promote me to our position when i left to a different company and then once in that company i changed positions like four times and then i just changed companies again yeah Yeah, fun, fun times. 

And now you have unlimited PTO and yeah, unlimited PTO Decent pay, Really good pay, I should say. Well, I mean, if, if, if you can do unlimited PTO then that is fantastic pay. Yeah. And obviously there's some limits. Manders also approve it sort of deal. 

But so it's unlimited limited. it's unlimited limited. But anytime i'm off, I will get paid. that's there's none of this. i'm taking time off and not getting paid. Deal. Correct. it's always, hey, look, i'm going to go to this concert thing. Boom. i'm paid. I want to go here. Boom. i'm paid. I want to go here. Boom. i'm paid. I think, I think the big, the big thing too with companies that are offering the unlimited PTO And you know, I think the idea is if you're going to be gone for a long time, you give the company a big enough heads up. But at the same time too, every company has that time of the year where it's crunch, crunch, crunch. Most companies that are paper companies, it's the end of the year, right. You get all your information at the end of the year. There are other companies that have more of a physical side. The busy season may be in the summer, like for example my company anywhere between. 

The busy time is between March and July, right? So if you take a vacation in between, it's fine. You take a vacation towards the end or the beginning, it's a little bit more of an eyebrow up like, hey, you know what we're going through right now. It also depends on your fiscal side like ours, right? 

The company i'm at, right. The fiscal calendar runs October to October, which is a really odd fiscal calendar. Insurance, Well, Northwest where it was where it was before insurance and mutual funds and that it ran January to December trying to think and we don't run insurance by the way. 

Medical. Nope. No, I don't work in medical anymore. Well, no, no, i'm saying i'm saying like the company i'm with, they do January to December, that's but the the open enrollment is in October. So our open enrollment 's in May. Oh, yeah. So ours is later in the year. So I can see where one company will shift it that that calendar time. Well that's was that it depends on the fiscal, you know what your fiscal year runs through ours runs October through October. So what that means is our busy season actually September to close up the book. By the end of the fiscal that makes sense which is always so fun. Your current company, right? Yeah, the current company. The current job that I work for fully remote useful. Does your current company dissipate at the end of December it's so dead at the end of December. OK Because I know some companies depending on the workload, if the primary workload, one of the companies, one of the first companies I worked for, manufacturing company, their busy time was March to like September. 

Yeah, right. Because they're predominantly producing stuff for heavy equipment and tractors and stuff like that. So once you got between September to March, it was dead. Nobody was placing orders or anything. The reason we're dead in December is we don't want to make any changes to our environment because we do tech for credit unions. Yep. What is December? Well, Thanksgiving through the end of the year, that's the busiest time of the year for them busy buying and that we want to make sure our systems are up and rock solid for them with no changes. So we don't want to do anything. Aaron, is there a busy season for your company, or is it just kind of all year, all round? it's just random? 

there's no specific time of year that gets busy or not. It just depends on what deals you guys get to pull in through the door. You guys doing any campaign stuff this year for like any of the campaign the candidates? Not that i'm aware of. OK Yeah. Any big contracts you guys just picked up? Oh, not that he can. He probably can't speak about those. I mean, I mean, not that I could talk about. OK Well, I didn't know it. Like, because I know, like, before you did like Trump Hotels, you mentioned like Trump New York. I didn't know if he did like Trump twenty twenty four before. Oh, my gosh. 

Since we're in an election cycle now it's an election season. So, hey, maybe some of that stuff will come through. OK It might. It might probably. Obviously not a Ron DeSantis twenty twenty four anymore or Vivek twenty twenty four Oh, is he out? Oh, yeah, they're both out. Oh, OK And then the VEC is supporting Trump. So is DeSantis. DeSantis, Yeah. But I I can sight to enter. I can see the VEC being trump 's VP People have said run DeSantis being trump 's VP Dude, we can. That can be a rabbit hole. that's that's chaos territory right there. Oh, OK Which is why we brought this stuff i'm hearing. Yeah. I don't know. I don't I haven't looked in anything. Yeah, but a lot has changed in five years. You know, we've gone from audio only to video and audio now, which is, you know, why we have a three camera set up in here. First time we've done a three camera set up fully with three people right so have you done two. camera three people before no just two people have done two people three camera yeah but after a while i was like nah we'll just do two two and two And that's what we've been doing. 

Still have the same chaos, but just not as much because Josh isn't here all the time. Yeah. So we were like, yeah, we had to bring Josh back for five years to. it's crazy. It let him introduce the chaos and like I said right away and a lot of stuff he didn't hear in the beginning was just chaos that happened. And poor Aaron, poor Aaron Guy caught in the crossfire. Yep. 

Generally where I tend to be. Sometimes it seems like, What was the name, What was the name that we gave Amy at the beginning of this? All? The enforcer. The enforcer. Yeah, man, that's what it was. She looked at me as I was eating and she was like, so why are you doing this again? Wow. 

Dang. Tell her it's not a permanent thing. I said. I said it's it's we're doing a five year episode. chico 's it's been five years. I said yes, that is crazy. Yup. The enforcer. We we're good. Your girl 's going to be given a nickname at some point too. Oh, geez. Yep. Oh geez. 

I I have. You have to have her on, too. Oh yeah. it's because the enforcer was on and she just writes that she was on, too. I I have. that'll be an interesting. I have an idea for one. But I have to get a prop for her first. 

i'm curious to see what this is. I need to get her a Chunkla. Oh, OK A Chunkla? Yeah. 

Come on. You can't have a Latina without a Chunkla. Yes. Yes, you can. Where were you going with that area? But she's she's I mean she's got it's a few decades before she would probably actually truly utilize it. Oh no, she can use it on him now. 

she's not going to want it. i'm see. When I think of that, I think of. 

The abuela. that's what I think of the abuela. The abuela. But it's not the abuela. it's any Mexican female. 

it's it's your mother. it's sure, as long as it's not like your sister, like your sister can't use a tonkla on you, but like your mother, your grandmother, your aunt, Your aunt, which, yeah, And other of some kind. Yeah. Your mother in law Oh just so you know she's not she's not Mexican. it's just it's good luck to you. Yeah. You choose to walk down that boardwalk. 

Yeah. If those things. I i'm just letting you know. I mean it's a pier. it's a pier out at the the dock and Racine if you're walking down that pier and I see a chance that come out. i'm i'm shutting the gate behind you. you're not coming back through have you have have have either of you two. I know I sent this to Aaron. Yeah. Yes. Have you either of you two seen the Mexican survival guides How to survive a chocolate. 

it's by a YouTube jam called The Crazy Gorilla. I think so, yes. OK Yes, it is wonderful The where it's like it's like. Is that the is that the one where it's like like like like like a robot or something at you or no it's not no robots involved. Well no it's just like it's like like oh hey you get so and so you know with the Chanchala and like you do stuff and you know she'll throw it at you. Is that that one that video you're describing a couple potential videos on there because there's a there's a robot one where they did basically re imagination let's say of squid games And then when you were killed in red light green light instead of the robot shooting you it was a woman as an old Mexican lady throwing a chocolate at you. Dead dead. But no, this one was like, there's like these two guys, you know, a Mexican guy and then his buddy, who's a little more white, you know, doesn't know the ways of the Mexican sitting on a couch. 

And the white guy, like, pulls off a sandal to until a family in the air. And then you see the Mexican guy, like, cowering, throwing himself on the floor like, no, no, I guess, like, i've not seen that one. what's the matter? And he's like, it's a chunkla every Mexican. And he takes him through, like this train video on, like, how to survive being hit by a chunkla. And then the end he goes, oh, I forgot, you can't survive or dodge a chunkla. it's the guy gets hit. No, the one I saw when I saw it was like, there's it was like, it was like a nineteen, fifties nineteen sixties kind of like like the vibe of like, oh, you see this cool thing in the magazine, let's buy it. And you buy it and it's an old lady with the tarantula. And you know, she's supposed to help with things around the house. Like she's supposed to keep the kids in order, particularly. And before you know it now she's you know, threatening the parents and the husband and and then they try to get rid of her and it's it turns into like a horror film at the end And then she comes back. Oh wait, is that the Mama with La chancla, the Christmas story one. 

That might be it because they do that at Christmas. They do the, you know, because there's Elf on the Shelf, you know, for. Yes. I think that was the one I sent you guys that. OK yes. That was the one. So yeah, there's Elf on the Shelf. And then they did the Mexican version of it with La La Mama with La Chancla. And it's it's like this, then it's literally their mom dressed in like this red elf outfit. 

And so instead of that, it's this little lady with a chancla Good luck on the Chanchala Chanchala chancla. what's the Chanchala chancla? There we go. Yeah, good luck. I already told Aaron that I should, but I should have bought his girlfriend for Christmas. Like you should have. What I was trying, I was trying to find. I can't find it and I might have to make it a chancla of the day calendar. 

Oh the twelve days before Christmas. The twelve days of Chunkla? Yes. 

And instead of the number going down it goes up. Oh it goes up. Or is seven advent calendar. 

The advent chunk was I can have fun with you too. OK Amy will mess with you in ways. How? 

don't know. But i'll figure it out. So i'm not the only one getting tortured here. 

i'm waiting. I I have to figure it out. Yes. To think of the other, I have to plan. He doesn't He doesn't know yet. No, I don't But i'll think it's on. Then. You might think twice about messing with me. 

Whiskey flavor. What about whiskey flavors? No, No. You don't think so? No. Oh no. No. Incorrect. Watermelon. No. watermelon 's good. 

Caramel. No. Maybe i'll suck. i'm just kidding. Steak. Oh no. 

That Would that be a. OK Inject your chaos. Oh jeez. Wheeze. don't I don't even know who I want to know. I don't know either. 

Is it inappropriate? Or most likely, yes it is. I can tell. Oh, but you can take it that way. See the people I work with. I can say something without any wrong connotation to it. And it gets it just goes that way. 

Chocolate. Oh, no. Oh, I just thought this point. I was like, I mean, I guess like, I was bracing myself for herself, too. I was getting real scared. I was like, oh, chocolate. that's kind of normal. I could see how people could mess around with that, though. 

Yeah. Now you're incorrect. Dark chocolate. 

No, no. OK At some point if we don't get out, i'll just be like, so no, it's not. What are you talking about? Does it have to be one that you know that? Never mind, i'm just going to stop talking again. 

Does it have to be what? Because I don't wear chapstick leftovers. i'm telling you, no, y'all are incorrect so far. OK interesting. So she likes it all. Natural. The flavor of your lips on that. Well, you know what? Yeah. Yep, that's it. Yep. that's the one. 

Yep. you're lying. No, i'm not. 

i'll I could. i'll shoot. I need to stop talking. 

Correct. Yeah. I don't I don't wear chapstick, though. 

Well, I mean, if it's taken off right away, you can't really, truly wear it. Yeah. Wait, What? What? I wet it off. I think it's taken off right away. Oh, right. So she likes the natural lip flavor. There you go. Heck yeah. Or does she like the hair? No, this is a really weird conversation. Yeah, I know. 

How does Amy like the mustache? She does not. I don't think so. How does your girlfriend like the mustache and beard? 

This is so weird. Five years difference. He has a wife now. You have a girlfriend now, right? Yes. that's all. So then no, never you know, never mind shoot. Oh, she didn't think she would be one to like someone with the beard at first. 

but so she's cool with the beard but as far as like the mustache as far as it getting too long not a fan of i was the first one to mention that i wasn't a fan of it i think first But that's my way. Whoa. Excuse me. Gotta trim it up. Keep it tiny. Although I do like the big bushy mustache you got going. 

What are you doing, Josh? I see the chaos. Smile. Jeez, Louise. Who is it towards me? Take a guess. 

I don't know. I thought he was going to get weird with it. I don't know. 

No, i'm not getting weird with it. Not yet. Oh, jeez, Louise. 

Gonna have to have a warning on this episode. No editing is just going to be interesting. Yes, it will. 

Just raw blood. I am so sorry. Who? What? he's a guy that I used to work with who uses some of these audios sometimes as editing practice. 

Oh geez. Oh goodness. All right. What was the chaos tornado doing? I I just oh, OK Because you had a little mischievous grin on your. Oh, I know on your chaos face. I was it was like one of those things to where it's just like is he going to say something? And I looked over at you and I was waiting for you to smile because if you were going to smile, I was just going to. It was like one of those. Never mind. Are you just going to play off of each other? Yes. Yes. Which which happens quite often. Johnson because because you're you're you're very well aware, mister Johnson of when Brewer wants to kind of amp something up, play something up. What does he do? 

What signal does he give to the other person he wants to play off of Oh no you never you've never seen it. Why do you like my scar? How would you just, like, give you a look and start? Well, but what? What? What does he do? He gives you a certain a signal. Oh, he does at least gives me the signal. 

What? What Chaos. What does the Chaos Monkey give? Banana. No. 

What signal does the Chaos Monkey give? I don't know. that's josh 's like name. Now. Chaos Monkey, he gives a little wink. Oh he does. So if you ever see him like give a one eye wink at me. See. I couldn't see. I I do it to the side of who i'm looking at. I know, because he can't see when I wink. My I know. But I but i've always noticed that he's done that since, like, day one. Whenever he wants to mess with you and he wants me to either play long or just let him do his little chaos or give me a little wink. 

I love you, bud. I can't I can't tell you how many winks there have been today. I don't even know. Like, i've lost track. Exactly. And this is like the first one. 

Oh, my mom. And that's just today. we're not talking about every other time. All three of us have been together. There have been. Almost every time there has been a time, one wink. The Chaos Monkey has been giving a wink. 

Thought I knew you more. That part has stayed the same over the past five years. Nice. Five years and you haven't noticed? Nope. No, i'm doomed. That that's sad. I I can't imagine when you have your own kids. 

i'm going to have some fun. I know. Me too. 

Me. And you're going to team up and we are. we're going to be the fun uncles. i'm glad she's got a lot of family. 

All of a sudden, all of them are going to be unable to babysit. they're going to need the fawn uncles to babysit. we'll tag team and make sure. And just when you think you've eliminated all communication between your kids and us, they'll be new with it. Yeah, ta da. i'll give up on that. he'll have something. we're going to go in via bird. 

Old school bird. You see a mourning dove on your roof. The message has been delivered. Shooting it? 

Well, the message has been delivered. we're not getting one back. How many of his ten kids we make into Chaos Monkey? 

All of them. OK ten out of ten will do. Again. I don't like this. 

This is making me have second thoughts On what? Kids. Just kidding. 

Interesting. Yeah. that's been something that's changed too, over the five years. Went from Aaron thinking he'd never even entertain the thought of kids to now entertain the thought of that. Yeah, actually, he's agreeing to it. Yeah, that's what I said. Well, ten kids. Well, I kids. Yeah, kids. Yeah, I didn't say ten There, there. there's a real conversation out there with Christians on whether or not protection should be used and if God, just contraceptives and stuff. Yeah, it happened. It was meant to happen. Just saying, are you under that boat? 

No. Oh, OK i'm just curious because we weren't we were having this conversation that we were talking about actually the book Knowing God. Yes. And talking about adoption. That led me down to this trail where there's a bunch of Christians online and it's so this weird sect and group of Christians, that's that right. Are like anti abortion or not anti abortion, anti adoption. 

they're they're real. Yeah, they're really weird. And they're like, here, let me pull this up because it it will make more sense if I read the quote because I was just like, what? This is weird on this. And it's this guy Eric Kahn on Twitter who kind of writes some of these things. he's one of the main more I guess, active guys on it. 

He he's yeah. He he can be a little weird, I guess you could say I I see some of his views. i'm like, OK some of the stuff I can agree with you on. And then some other stuff. i'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, where are you coming from here, buddy. 

So, for example, this is one of his sweets. There is no moral obligation to adopt children, Not from the ghetto Sudan or Russia, Contra the trendy movement. The gospel does not require adoption, in fact is often unwise and detrimental to do so. Loving your own is natural, not sin. 

Say that again. There is no moral obligation to adopt children, not from the ghetto Sudan or Russia. Contra the trendy movement. The gospel does not require adoption, in fact is often unwise and detrimental to do so. Loving your own is natural, not sin. 

That is a very small sect of yeah, it. Like I said, it's a very, but they're trying to like take over kind of like the. The reform movement as well in they're trying to like be the thought leaders of the reform movement online and yeah it's weird that's a bad that's a bad thought process. Yeah. I mean just just just I mean the adoption is not just limited to to to legalized family. 

I think that, I think that's the the, you know, that could be a whole another yeah segment. Yeah. And then here is another one of his tweets. Many of the same people pushing adoption not a command. And in other words he's saying not a command in the Bible. we're OK if you had few or no children, biologically an actual command as in an actual command in the Bible to have children. 

And it's like, all right buddy, it goes complete inversion of Scripture and it's about someone saying hey, it's OK to adopt children we know where it's because you can't have your own or. Whatever reason. Yeah, like I said, weird, weird people out there. A lot of people. And it's not wrong, right? it's not wrong for somebody to be passionate about any topic that they feel that they have enough evidence to be able to voice an opinion on. But most people are undereducated even about topics they think they are educated on, right? The amount of education required to, i'm going to say to be to be to have the specified amount of knowledge on a topic of conversation, to be able to make an absolute decision is almost impossible. 

And most people, when they talk about stuff, they just don't They don't know enough. And this is where you'll find people having a different point of view over the course of time is as they learn more, understand more, are exposed more, their their opinion is due to change. But a lot of people talk about about that especially right now and who has what right and and this and that and a lot of people don't know anything about it. So yeah I mean it's no it's no bicky If somebody doesn't really fully know how. I would say that stuff works but and you don't need to know like the full on mechanics behind it. But no. But it's good to know does this whatever method is that a fertilized egg that it disposes of, let's say or is it prevent fertilization that you know at that basic level need at least know that yes, you don't need to know the mechanics of like, oh, this one releases this hormone into the person which causes an increase in the mucus production which does this and does this. 

You don't need to know that. But I mean, I guess, I guess to your point too, I mean when it comes to a religious standpoint or? You have to have some basic understanding of this. So does it really even matter, right? I mean, if well, for some people does for like specifically, let's say the you hear this a lot, mostly through, like the Catholic line, right? Where they're like, no birth control, period, Like leave it to God, essentially no condoms, nothing. period Just that's it, right? But then you have others who are like birth control, where it's not, you know, essentially lack of better terminology, causing a fertilized egg to be discarded. 

You know, So they're fine with stuff where it's not a fertilized egg and it's discarded, but they're not, you know, so that that's fine. But like stuff like Plan B where it's fertilized and it's it's potential, it's life there because paralyzed then that's where they have an issue with it. So in in that regard, it's good to have a basic understanding like. 

What What essentially does it do? You don't need to know the the mechanics behind it. You don't have to have to be certified of that. But no, OK this one fertilization happens. This one fertilization doesn't happen. Woohoo, we're good to go. And I I think at the end of the day too some some. And this is where you have some, some Christians, scholars and other religions say that, OK if it's preventing fertilization, then what's the difference in not taking that and buying something that discards the fertilized egg after? Right. At that point there's no difference. No, there's a difference. Well, from the standpoint of what would happen, right? Somebody can play off that. 

But compared to what has true, right? But you don't know if it's an if statement. it's it's it's an uncalculated. You cannot calculate that variable to some degree, right? If it's an if statement. 

If it a is a. half statement you can calculate so some it's an argument that many can have right but there's been more and more research i don't know if you guys are aware there's been more and more research recently done in earth control and they're finding that it's altering the hormone balance the natural hormonal balance in woman more than it was intended to do not surprising and one of the studies they have found is they have found that when people get into relationships that may be on birth control that when they become off of birth control who and what they're attracted to changes wow which which which is a it's a different thing in a in a christian marriage right right it is another added card that you have to learn how to deal with. Because if and it's no offense to the woman and our hormones play even in the wild, right? Hormones play a massive, massive role in selection for the survival of species. 

Massive role, right? This is going to sound weird, but just the smell, like in the wild and you're talking about whitetail and stuff, just the smell will determine if a buck or a doe get together. I mean, I mean it's it, it goes down to some of the things that us humans can't even experience or comprehend. So when you take something that alters that or has the impact, right, doesn't necessarily alter everybody but it has the impact and it's it's quantifiable that just adds a, a, a a big, a big that's turning like a six sided die into a seven sided. 

there's a role that you're going to have to learn how to work with that was never in the playbook. But yeah, I thought that was interesting when I when I was reading some studies on that because you go from being attracted to somebody to no longer being attracted to somebody. I mean, it's it's it's a flip, interesting. That would suck. 

But at the same time, too, if your marriage is founded, the basis of love is an action and not an emotion. It is both. But well, it is and it isn't because you're not going to wake up every day wanting to roll over and say good morning, right? So you're not going to always feel it, but it's your choice to act it. I mean, it's it's just like just like people at work and stuff. If if you're at work and somebody 's pissed you off the day before, right, They may not have realized you pissed off by them, so they're going to come into work in a nice good mood. Right. Is it fair to them if you come out and you attack them with knives? No, right? Because if they don't know they pissed you off, then why should they reciprocate anger and frustration and hatred? They shouldn't but it's a natural thing, so you're not going to feel it every day. And yes, the initial aspect, to your point. 

Yes. Right. And it's not like and if that was the case, then I could just look at anybody off the street and say, hey, i'm going to serve you for the rest of my life, let's get married. Right. 

And that's obviously not, that's not what's going to start that ball. But that action is what keeps that ball rolling for ten twenty thirty forty fifty. That helps. Yeah. Yeah. 

Chaos Monkey engaged. it's awesome. Yeah. 

Hey everybody, it's editing version Paul now, so don't mind the scruff here. So i'm bringing this one up into two parts, just cuz we still got a good forty five minutes to go. So here. So yeah, we brought the Chaos Monkey back for these last few episodes here of, well, shouldn't say the last few episodes, the first few episodes of. Year five essentially. So we're going to continue on. we're just starting to get into the good conversation. So I didn't want to break it up once a good conversation started to get going. So broke it up here. So we'll continue next week with Part two of this episode where we continue to have the Chaos Monkey join us. The Chaos Monkey mister Josh Brewer Himself the.