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Nov. 8, 2023

Music Analysis: Red Cold World

This week we take a look at one of Red's songs off of their newest album: Rated R. The song - Cold World - is one that we both agree is <spoiler> but we both agree that it is <spoiler>. What goes into those spoiler blanks? Listen and find out.

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I'll Next, use that next as intro.

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month we'll cover Thank you Taylor and welcome Swift to and another find episode of User Words.

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out Aaron's love And for this Tate.

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time we're talking about Cut.

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music.

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a song that Aaron himself picked from the, from the void to be put on the pedestal here.

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Nice.

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And like the August This burn dread one will see how things go and see what do you mean?

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How things will go?

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We'll see.

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It's with.

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Right.

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Right.

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This isn't the heaviest one on the album, which I was kind of like.

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I was bummed about afterwards because like once I actually listened to the full album, I was like, dang, I should have picked this song.

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But yeah, it definitely was radio safe song.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So Well, read if you're not familiar.

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It's a band originally formed back in 2002.

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Thanks.

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The year after I graduated graduated.

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high school.

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Okay, do put that in perspective.

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Shut it.

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By twin brothers, Anthony and Randy Armstrong.

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, they formed it?

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Yes.

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So they formed it with lead vocalist Michael Barnes.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, so the twin brothers.

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There's where the core of it.

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That's cool, which I never put two and two together that they were twins.

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But yes, They are twins.

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Well, I'm trying to think of, I think the first music video I ever saw by Red was death of me.

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And they've both gotta got...

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be in it and that first like I remember there's times I'm like wait who's who exactly sounds like it's just like the same guy like how do you pull this off so yeah that's awesome yep So they're twins and I was like, wait, oh, I thought they were just, you know, I knew they were brothers.

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I didn't realize twins.

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They are twins.

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I was like, at first I was like, oh, they Just just, look really similar.

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No, that's why the So So right now the band is is that that core trio.

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Yeah, so the brothers and barns, along with the drummer Brian medareos, however you say that they I can't even say it properly.

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Remember who was there because yeah, they've had a few drummers, but I remember Joey was one I liked him a lot, but oh Joe Ricker record.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Joe Rickard was a past member.

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Yeah.

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They've had quite a few past members.

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Actually, I'm looking at their let's say one, two, three, four, five past members.

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Not just just drummers told but like guitarists in that too.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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So they use have drummer Andrew Hendrix and guitarist Jason Roush.

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They no longer have those too.

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Yeah, so they've had some line And up.

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I'm changes but most a lot of bands have lineup changes over the years.

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So that's nothing unusual.

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It's not like, oh, the bands in trouble.

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It's there.

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But yeah, so since 2002 they've been playing around and doing things there from originally.

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The lines will Pennsylvania.

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Not a Pennsylvania band.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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It's got good bands out there, I guess.

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Well, I mean, what do they have to do out there besides do farm work and make music yeah exactly thank you so what I was gonna say is Now, I know I've heard this in the past, but does red is it short for redemption?

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I've heard that, but I'm guessing I haven't been able to find anything.

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anything 100 % like what the origin of the name is any of that.

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So I don't know 100 % off the top of my head.

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Linesville.

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is about five hours away from Lancaster.

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Oh, so there's a there.

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Lancaster is farther east to south.

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Line's will is up northwest like just over the border.

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If you're coming from Cleveland, so we probably would go we probably really close that in our way depends on the way I mean I was well now we We were would that we went for ourselves.

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We went more self.

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Because Cleveland is right.

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That is not right.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's right.

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It's like Lake Erie, right?

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Like right there.

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And so you go straight east, basically from there across the border and you got lines from Pennsylvania.

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Oh, nice.

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Okay.

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So yes, Pennsylvania.

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But they still have some change, you know, some distance between them.

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So they're not, but they are farmers at heart.

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That's cool.

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Heck yeah.

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It says in their...

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very official history that you know the three of them the three core members they grew up together in that town.

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So the three of them the core grew up together in lines of Pennsylvania.

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They went to elementary school together.

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Paul.

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And remain friends well ever since.

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And it says if they gain inspiration to pursue a music career after the attended festivals, including the Christian themed creation festival in wish to perform on stage.

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Creation Fest, I think I've been to that.

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Hmm, really?

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I think so.

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Oh, sounds really familiar.

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That's cool though.

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Man, so it started from way back when, man.

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Yeah, that's It's a over in Pennsylvania.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And maybe you have been to it.

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So the first being base that they're remember that they all three remembers of was a band called ascension.

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ascension.

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Yep.

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What?

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And they did gigs and youth centers around Erie, Pennsylvania playing covers of contemporary Christian music.

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What?

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Interesting.

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Are they?

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I'm hoping that they're rock versions or they just straight up covers.

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They were straight covers up covers.

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all and then these and then says then they turn to hard rock and then that's when read formed all right but do you know who and it originally invite them to record.

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And another old school Christian band, audio adrenaline, guitarist.

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Barry Blair heard their music and invited them to record.

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So what what what album did they record?

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Was it their first album?

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No, it's like record some demos to try to like get them going and that okay, and so they did this around their day jobs yeah so during the times bar.

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Burns, the singer was a nurse in emergency room.

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Really?

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Yep.

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And the Armstrongs worked in a mall.

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Nice.

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They said their influences are bands.

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and such as Lincoln Park, Seven Dust and Cheval.

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Yeah.

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Well, I get that.

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Yep.

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Man, that's crazy.

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I didn't think how long Seven Dust has been around.

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Yeah.

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That it influenced a band.

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informed in 2002.

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Yeah.

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Their first like complete lineup was in 2004.

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That's when they added their drummer Andrew Hendrix.

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Okay.

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And guitar and Jason Roush.

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Jason Roush.

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Yep.

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And they now the only thing that I can find about about it.

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the origin of the name was that they said that they wanted something short.

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Short.

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Meaningful?

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What's meaningful about red?

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Easy to to remember read.

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and spent two years searching for groups with this name similar to red and then they secured the trademark to it once they found no other bands with it.

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Two years?

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Yeah.

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Wow, but what's what I don't understand how it hits the second point of what they're looking for in a name.

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What meaningful?

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Well, Remember they're coming from the Christian perspective red blood.

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Yeah, so that's why I guess I wondered if If it was short for redemption that's like oh, yeah, I get what Why you would you why you would say that and why potentially could be like that?

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But interesting.

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That's what it is.

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Yeah, so it says is.

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So after they're invited to record, right?

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They recorded four demos in a garage and a nursery.

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Nice.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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It's got to be a cool nursery then shoot.

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It has to be.

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It has to be.

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Why does it have to be a cool nursery?

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I don't know.

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I just, you're having like hard rock music playing and well, I've seen no one's in their wallet tap.

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Yeah.

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It's like, it's awesome.

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I mean, I got nothing.

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I don't know.

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I just think that's cool.

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So after they record their demos, Roush, one of the guitars at the time.

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He worked.

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worked as an intern for a studio.

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That studio, one of the guys kind of helped them get some pre -equipment to use for their time there.

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And they asked one of the guys named Graves to listen to what they produced.

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And the guy said, hey, you know what?

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He goes, this was his Quote, quote.

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it was really rough all over the map, but I could hear their elements there.

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I told them it was good.

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It had potential.

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All right.

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Gotta start somewhere like this.

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That's awesome.

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But you know, but he didn't just You see know, say that to them.

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He then it then says that he then took him under his wings.

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He paid for studio time for them.

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Dang, that's nice.

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Okay.

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And he produced use any paid for the production of their first demos.

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Wow.

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It took two years from to get like all the demos like polished out and everything.

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After he did that, He he then signed them to a development contract.

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You know what development contract is, right?

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I'm well, I mean, it's just...

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I guess not.

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I guess what would I, a development contract?

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'd imagine it just being something where it's like they have to produce music, obviously.

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And yeah, they, But they produce some music but under guidance from from the producer net to kind of get them up up to speed essentially.

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It literally is what it means, what it sounds like development, to help them develop as musicians and as music professionals.

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And then they can take their money.

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Yeah, because they're putting putting their own into it.

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They're investing into it.

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So that's fair.

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Darm producers.

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So you know they did that.

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And then they got signed on to the album and blah blah blah.

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The rest is history thread and they've continued on now doing albums for a long time.

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And like they've done that stuff independently though too.

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Yeah, they've kind of on gone the more well no there's Sony actually really yeah Sony essential red they might be like like now independent, but they've done stuff like with Sony before.

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Yeah.

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But So speed last thing here before we get into the actual music section song barns said the following quote We are are Christians in a band, but if people feel more comfortable and say that we are a Christian band, we do not shy away from that.

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Interesting.

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Because you have a lot of band tools.

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Well, like it could like no, we're not a Christian band, but we are Christians in a band, but are yeah, that isn't that's um, that's um, that's an interesting I guess thought.

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Why is it?

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I mean, if you're Christians in a band, I mean, in a sense, it is a Christian band.

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Yeah.

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Because I'd imagine and a hopefully whatever the music is that you're writing comes from that perspective and that believes stuff or whatever.

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So it's like that's...

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It's gonna show up so I wasn't it like a Christian band?

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It's not just a band.

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I don't know whatever.

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Well you got a lot of artists who will say you know do that little little phrase of well we're not a Christian band but we're Christians.

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But we are Christians in this band.

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Well then what's your music?

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about, I mean, yeah, whatever.

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For like other like Christian bands, it's like, I guess that's where I get like hung up because it's like a Christian band.

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and can still write songs that have nothing to do with Christianity.

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And just like find whatever random songs.

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Yeah, as I see today.

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As well.

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Yes, it's true.

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I know.

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All right, whatever yeah, all right, moving on, casting it.

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I'm done.

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Well, am I wrong?

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No, you're right.

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Okay.

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I was like actually kind of confused by like I don't know this song a little bit but why I don't know I just I This just as far as like the lyrics, I don't know, I didn't really look in anything about like what was this song about or yeah, what inspired this song.

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Yeah, I have What what.

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is the name of the final anything out there at all?

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I mean, it is is pretty pretty well not brand new but is new.

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It's it's It's it's it's new it's pretty new.

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Yes, it's pretty do.

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It's not like brand brand new, but it's pretty new Uh, we're not talking, you know, since dog that's like been it's a year -to -old This came out in August, beginning of August.

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I thought it was September.

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Oh, well the thing on the bottom says August 4th, 2023.

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Okay.

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Oh, that might Then be more.

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when the single came out, the album came out.

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I have that.

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I don't know.

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I don't know, dude.

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Maybe that's...

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That's when the first piece of the album was released, yeah, for as a single.

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Yeah, so what that was rated R, right?

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Yeah.

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Red rated R at least date.

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Oh, I'm sorry, September 29th.

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What?

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through the band's independent label, red entertainment collaboration with the fuel music.

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Interesting.

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So that makes even more or fun.

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reason, except Cold World was one of the singles.

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Yes, it was.

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And that was probably what was released.

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Cold World was released September 1st.

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Okay.

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gets was released August 4th.

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Okay, so that was the beginning of the releasing.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Circuits was the first single released.

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Yeah.

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And uh, Circuits is actually kind of panned a little bit by people like people didn't really like the single.

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Yeah.

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But so that's okay.

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Cold world came And out of people are like, yeah, we like this.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad when like the songs that are released by the band are like, eh.

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All right, well, I guess that can make you nervous for the album too, but like I hate when like bands probably released their best song as a single.

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I'm just like, oh, because now the rest of the albums is like, but that's all under.

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It depends on what you like, I suppose, but okay.

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Yeah.

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So I have.

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I'm not going to say it yet, but essentially I have what I call my summary of the song.

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I'll save it for later, but let's just say I have a summary for this song.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I got nothing.

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A summary review.

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view of what this song is.

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Okay.

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We'll get to that in a minute.

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All right.

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So let's go ahead and start with our things here with the song.

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Yeah.

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I would, what are our things with the song?

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What are our always...

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Always are things with the songs.

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Um, lyrics and uh, uh, uh, music.

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Yeah, there's music no music.

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video this time.

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No, as I say, there's music video, but there is none.

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And then obviously the biblical stuff.

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All right.

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So let's go ahead and start with lyrics.

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Yeah, this time.

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Let me say this this about the lyrics.

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I'll start.

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Thank you.

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It starts with the chorus or the pre -chorus.

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It starts with the pre -chorus.

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Goes to pre the pre -chorus, -chorus.

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goes to the chorus and I feel like that's it lyrically.

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There's not a ton here lyrically to latch into.

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Yeah, that's really not.

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It is very repetitive.

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repetitive.

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Yeah.

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Literally, when I say it starts with the pre -course, okay, the pre -course is this.

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I feel pain, I feel no pain pain.

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anymore since you've gone away all the fear inside me fades away.

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All right, here's verse one that the song starts with the song starts at verse one.

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I feel no pain anymore since you've gone away.

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I'm not the same anymore.

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Here's the only line that's different.

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Well, there's a couple lines of different areas.

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I'm not saying any more, just your cold embrace.

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I'm like, so we're starting pre -chorus as verse.

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Right.

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So the structure of the song is pretty simple.

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It's very standard.

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It's verse one, pre -chorus, chorus, verse two.

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course, Ridge course.

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Yeah, very cookie cutter.

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Very, a lot of music, but yeah.

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This is why My summary will make sense when I say my summary.

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Okay.

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Just uh, yes.

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So, lyrically, there's not a Not lot here.

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Personally for me looking at it from the outside looking in without them giving interviews right I can read It two different ways.

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Okay.

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And this goes back to our conversation about Jesus is my boy from music stuff.

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Oh, Jesus.

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So I can read it two different ways.

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I can read either one.

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This guy just went through a breakup with like a girlfriend or a wife or you know she laughed or something.

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It was real tragic.

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He's feeling really down the dumps.

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He's feeling depressed.

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I feel no Painting pain.

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more classic symptom of depression.

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Okay, you're already feeling numb.

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You don't feel anything anymore, right?

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I'm not the same anymore.

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It's still going into that depression thought.

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Just your cold embrace.

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Well, there must be some bitterness there.

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I see your life through the dark, but I hide my face.

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How do we find a way to a better place?

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Like, uh, I could be a breakup song going in there.

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Um, yeah.

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Down again.

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that I fawn through the same empty self -inflicted void again.

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How long can we survive in this cold world?

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Like, green there is some like...

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either just...

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Just like I said, he either just had a breakup or and here's the second interpretation I can get from it where I say that Jesus is my boyfriend music side.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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Um, where he's having almost like where he feels rejected doubt the rejection of God in that.

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So I I was was like, that's why I was like, I can read it one of those two ways and those are really the only two ways I can read this song that I've I've been been able to read based on the lyrics.

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Right.

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Like how long have I been asleep and how long have I been waiting for a change?

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All ever What do you want us to just exist and be fearless?

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Yeah, that's where I was like thinking, because what's, uh, well, the question is how, well, okay, at least That's when when I was listening to one of the, was it the Apple music stuff?

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It actually has punctuation.

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Yeah.

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Comparing to this doesn't have.

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At least the lyrics I'm looking at doesn't.

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But I guess yeah, I I was was just just...

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confused as like, well, who's like, what's this like, who is this song about when he talks about since you've gone away?

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Give the neon.

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when it gets into the chorus and stuff, I'm just thinking of, I don't know, like, so how long have I been asleep and how long have I been waiting for a change?

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I didn't think it would.

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Okay, so then yeah, I guess I'm wondering what were you expecting something to be, but then all I ever wanted was to just exist.

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So that, and that was also like, I don't know, I was getting confused.

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I was like, what are we talking about?

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But here, um, because that for me, it just got into like regret.

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It just dies into like just where my mind's been anyway.

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But it's fun.

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So that's where I like it's I know it's kind of funky.

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I guess it's good and it gets good timing for for me I suppose.

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as far as the chorus goes.

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Okay.

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But it's like, I guess I've never had the thought of I just wanted to exist.

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I'm not like, I don't exist.

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So I think we have never had that.

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Oh, I've been there.

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That is I true.

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guess not okay so that's why I said like I was about to say regardless of which way I read it yeah the way Like like the way it comes across is this person needs therapy.

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He needs to go get some treatment for their depression.

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He needs some help.

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You want me to explain that I all I ever want to was to just exist.

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Yeah, so like what I guess, what does it what does it like to feel like you don't exist?

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Like you just just don't have any meaning or matter or there's nothing that I don't know, you're not something that matters per se to others and you're just I don't know.

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All that and more.

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Okay, so what's the more?

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The more it is you feel like you're just kind of...

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You're just kind of...

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You just exist.

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No, not you It's just...

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not that you exist.

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Is there something you're playing a role in life?

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You're just kind of tiptoeing through it going through the motions, right?

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Because to exist It means more than just going through emotions.

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It means to be present and what's going on to have those feelings to enjoy those conversations, to enjoy the music.

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It means to enjoy the taste and the smell of food.

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It means to feel those emotions emotions.

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from music.

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How do you not do that?

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Dude, when you are in depression, everything is just pure gray.

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Like, I could sit there.

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You could take me to the five, the five stariest the most fancy food, I would just smell and be like, yeah, oh, it's food.

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I think that would be songs I I would listen to.

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listen to you know, yeah, I understand that like I get those feelings I suppose but I've never felt like I don't know like I would listen to songs and all ones that normally would stir my soul in some way.

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Yeah, it's just it'd have to be like yeah, you're hard.

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I wouldn't do it.

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I would do it.

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But I'd be carton and cold to everything.

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Right.

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It's so yes.

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physically I exist metaphysically I don't exist.

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Matt of metaphys.

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Big, big crazy words coming out.

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I mean, that's not a big crazy word, but.

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Oh, really?

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Metaphysically is not a big crazy word.

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It's what doesn't matter if it's me.

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I mean, I don't like this game anymore.

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I guess I couldn't actually give you an actual definition, but like I get the idea.

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We're talking about it.

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Okay, so metaphysics, just so we're all on the same page here.

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Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy that studies the fundamental nature of reality.

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Sounds nuts.

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This includes the first principle of being or existence.

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Identity, change, space, time, cause in and effect effect.

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necessity, actuality and possibility.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So when it gives you a metaphysical crisis, I think it would have depression.

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That's why because you don't have a sense of the of you feeling like like you're necessary to the world.

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You don't feel like there's possibility of things going on.

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You don't have a feeling of identity that things can change.

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Right.

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So.

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That's interesting.

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That is interesting.

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That is interesting.

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Good way to put it.

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Yeah.

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I think it's like it's like one of those like like.

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the the the deserve kind of thing for me is like so i mean you do exist i like i understand the whole thing of the pointless being You me know, a guy from church just had a conversation about deserve.

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Well, so remember we had a conversation a few months back about like, I said, you know, all humans deserve a base form of love.

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I'm not saying like acceptance everything to to do.

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do and all that, but the base form of love, right?

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It mean him or having that conversation just so you know, he's on my side.

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Of course he is.

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I just met him recently too.

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So it's not like I've, you know, mean, you've had a lot of manipulative his mind.

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I'm manipulated.

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I was saying no.

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No, but it's not like we've had a lot of conversations get to know one another like this is one of our first really long conversations nice and that came up and I was like yeah, was it was having this conversation with my buddy and he's like, he's like, I'm on your side, I'm on your side.

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He's weird.

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He's like, I get the term.

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I like deserve why that might like mess with his brain a little bit, but he he just I still need to remember all of it now at this point.

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Shoot.

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You'll have to go back and listen.

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That's all it means.

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Yeah.

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But yeah.

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That's not the one of those words.

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But literally this is very simplistic.

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But again, I read through and I go, man.

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And if this song was an actual person, I'd be like, you need to go seek therapy, sir.

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You need.

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Yeah.

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You need Jesus.

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Exactly.

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Need to pick up a bib or something.

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I don't know.

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That would be my...

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The church.

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That'd be my first thing.

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I'd be like, you need Jesus and you need therapy.

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Yeah.

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The two are not mutually exclusive and the two are not mutually inclusive.

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In other words, just because you have Jesus as that mean, you also have therapy in it.

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Those are two things that you need to do independent of one another.

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But you need to do both simultaneously.

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You can't just do one or the other.

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Let me, yeah.

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Oh, I Yeah, mean, yeah.

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yeah.

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Anything else on the lyrics?

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No, I guess it's really just pretty, it's very simple and not a whole lot there.

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Okay.

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Okay, one to five.

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What would you give these lyrics?

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Oh, man.

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I feel like I'm just a middleman.

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I'll do three.

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Okay.

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I think.

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Okay.

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Oh, yeah.

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Be more Confident kind.

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is sort of yeah, I'll give it a three all right.

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Yeah, what are you giving?

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I'm giving it to yeah, I was I I was really close, but I'm just like, it's just because of how simplistic and repetitive it is.

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Yeah.

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And I get this feeds into my my summary of this song.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Music.

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Music.

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Okay.

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Music of this song.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Were you gonna hit on on the the music part of it.

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Go on.

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I mean, I enjoyed it.

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You enjoyed it?

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Yeah, I just like the, I like the drums.

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I figured that.

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I mean, there was There was, I don't know, there's just like fun little double bass pat like rhythms.

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That was cool.

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Plenty of fills.

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I mean, granted, I mean, they're all very, I mean, very similar, just kind of standard, but cool.

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Like I said, well, as we listened to it before we started doing this, I was like, be a fun.

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fun song to just cover on the drums so as far as that goes enjoyed it.

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That a whole lot to too.

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it pretty simple just standard as far as I don't know just everything else goes.

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Okay.

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I mean I liked it.

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Otherwise I I wouldn't be listening to it.

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So all right.

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So music music.

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They had the strings in there.

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It's pretty.

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That's one thing I've always loved about red.

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They have with the strings in their songs.

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I'm trying to remember where the strings were.

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Unless I'm confusing it now with emergency.

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Like I listened to it a few times times.

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I'm talking like even on way down here.

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Yeah.

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I'm having a hard time remembering where there's strings in it.

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I'm I'm gonna be real nervous now now that I said that because they normally are one that have strings in a lot of their music Okay, are we gonna listen to it again?

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We're gonna listen to it on headphones because I want to find out where these strings are because I want to know if I'm wrong and old or if Aaron's right.

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Or if I'm just dumb.

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I wasn't going to say that way.

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But I know what you mean, okay.

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Unless I confused it with emergency because I know there's strings in one of the two.

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I have seen I keep saying being cold word not cold word.

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I'm saying Cold War, you're saying Cold Word.

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It's Cold World.

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Oh my gosh.

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Can't get the name of this song right?

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Okay, apparently it's string synth.

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I'm just It could be keyboards playing strings.

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I don't.

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And that's only in the intro.

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So we didn't even get to hear the whole song.

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Yeah, at that point I Just was just like, like, okay, we're just gonna say strings.

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It would be a mixture of both.

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You know, whatever.

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Okay.

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They're there.

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Okay, Red's always been like big with string.

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I pulled a pistol.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I pulled a bite.

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Okay.

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Whatever.

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At least I didn't like get up and walk away through the song.

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Okay, I'm out.

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Okay.

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Anything else on the music.

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Okay.

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That's fun.

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I had no, I had What no.

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complaints about the music?

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No, no complaints.

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So when you're like, is this what you're going to complain about?

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No, this is...

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I don't think you'll understand what when I say it.

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There's not the wrath of music at all.

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It's the...

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Okay.

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Take this with however you want to.

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It's stereotypical.

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circle red and sound.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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They have definitely built a sound and they have stuck with it.

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Oh yeah.

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And they continue on with it and on with it and on with it.

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Which when it comes is up a brand new play list is fine but if I were to listen to the whole album I think it would get exhausting if I listened to it multiple times but maybe But like one time through.

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Yeah, cool and randomly on playlist cool, but if it like somehow my phone got stuck on repeat of only one album.

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I would rather not listen to music than because listen.

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it's because it's just so repetitive.

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Wow.

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It's just like, but it's just not that the the the And the this is the song that never ends.

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Okay, once you've heard one red.

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It's on you for the mall.

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Yeah, that's pretty fair.

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I mean, there's there are the ones that stand out for sure.

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But as a whole, they are.

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You know, when you're hearing you know when you're listening to like and song comes on your like all that thread yeah because it's the same I mean the vocalist though too and he's got a voice that stands out yes he I does don't get me wrong in that, but the sound structure and the sound scape of their songs.

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Right.

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It could be the same same.

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thing just different lyrics every time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I, again, nothing wrong with it musically.

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It's great to listen to don't come me wrong.

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I'm not saying like I don't I didn't say that at all.

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Um, I Still think highly of them.

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They're talented.

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Oh, yeah I love to to see see him again.

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Yeah.

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What are they playing again?

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I think they already played through here.

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No, because there's one of the days I was supposed to have a gig.

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Is it the fourth or the eleventh?

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Probably the fourth, because that's when I have a gig.

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But because they're fun to to see say.

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in concert too.

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Yeah, we saw that uh, we're all 20.

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No, number fourth.

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Of course it is.

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Some of a gun.

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All right.

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So yeah.

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Good band.

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I wish.

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It'd be fun to see him on a big stage again.

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Yeah, I haven't seen him on a big stage.

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Yeah, I've seen him Once one.

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or no once on a bigger stage for like the winter jam stuff.

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That was dope.

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So okay, so you ring up the route 20 thing.

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Yeah, I took my mom to brunch.

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She could have route 20 couple Saturdays back.

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We drove Buy by.

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it.

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Okay.

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I was like, oh, she's like, who would have we go to a bar like that?

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I was like, oh, I went there to see a concert once.

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She's like, and what concert did you go see there at a bar?

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Oh my gosh.

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It's a bar restaurant.

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Okay.

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It's Not not just a bar.

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I was just like, oh, okay, mother.

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Get out of here.

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Listen to your weird songs about whatever.

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I was like, let's go, let's take it a brunch and then she complained about the brunch spot.

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Oh my gosh.

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Just nothing's good enough.

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Uh -oh.

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So the statement Even that it was as well after we sat down she leaned in and close to me she goes, why did you bring me to a spot where I'm the only non -white person?

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Oh my gosh!

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For the sake of diversity.

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So be my goodness.

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And then like a half hour in like a family walk and she's like, Oh, good.

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There's some color in here now.

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Thank you.

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I just sat there, like, I'm just like, oh my goodness.

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For interesting man, they can no filter anymore.

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Well as we learn, my mom and your mom are the same age.

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No, oh, okay.

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All right, yes.

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All right.

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I thought you were going to say out of the same.

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No.

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Just like the same.

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I was like, no.

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No.

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I might wouldn't say that.

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But I guess of course she's white so...

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Does...

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Exactly!

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I wasn't gonna say That's it.

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all right.

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It's just the fact of the matter.

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It's whatever.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Anyways.

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Guys.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it would be fun to see him again.

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Yeah, it would be.

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What would you rate this musically?

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One, five.

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Um.

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Hmm.

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Okay.

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Uh...

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Everything but the drums.

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Mm -hmm.

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A three.

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Okay.

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Drums I like...

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give way out maybe it's okay.

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I was Because I liked I don't know it That is tough because yeah, it's I it's it's pretty Drum's are fun.

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I need if I figure out a way to do like the effects of like you in space when you go you go fun.

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No, I mean, I Yeah, three.

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Yeah, I wrote my down before you even said there was a three.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so three should man should so there's no He's music a video to deal with the song.

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No, so zero.

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Yeah, well, it's not applicable.

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I know.

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Oh, I'd be curious.

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So yeah, like that would that could give a lot of you hopefully give more insight on the song, but whatever.

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All right.

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Yeah, Ben's just him pining after like a photo of a girl.

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All right, well, the one that he desires.

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Gonna give it a two or one.

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We'll have a couple Like the more time.

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singer singer but the subject that is singing right song right um I That's a thing like there's Where says I see the light through the dark, but I hid my face.

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I don't know why but that I don't know Why put my mind went to the Garden of Eden?

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For us, we're at an even hit from God as He you.

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was like, came down to spend time with him and they're like, oh, because they knew they were an egg and sort of thing.

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So I guess it's like having that shame.

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and the hiding away.

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So I get that.

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How do we find our way to a better place?

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Well, I mean, seek Jesus, man.

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You'll get there.

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So what do you give it?

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I hate this.

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I wrote down.

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I hate this.

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Why?

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Because it's like for me, it's always either as like, is there like biblical stuff for it?

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Yes, or no.

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Which there's some.

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And okay, let Let me.

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me just because it just because it doesn't have any difficult stuff with it doesn't mean it's necessarily bad song because it could be just stuff fun song.

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Yeah, so don't don't be like why if I give it zero that means I can never listen to I'm it.

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So sorry, I just kidding.

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No, I should not.

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I've I've I'm learning.

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Finally, but I'll give it a I'll give it a It's gonna do all around Three three is it you give me a three or a two I don't know which one two okay, that's what I want with initially I'm gonna keep with it I broke my down before he once anything so it doesn't influence me so what do Do you do you want to give it a big fat zero?

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I changed mine to zero.

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No.

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All right.

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I mean, because Yeah, I really isn't anything in there besides maybe some imagery that you're that you're kind of talking about that kind of a Lude to some things, but that's just my mind doing what it does.

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So right, but that my personal might be intentional intense.

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on that as well.

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So I was just like, you know what, never leaves anything here, but it's not like it's a bad song.

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No, it's still.

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It's like nothing there.

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Yeah.

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Again, maybe if they come back with the interview and they're like, oh, here's the story behind you all the time, like, you made there some inspiration there, but still it like what's explicit in the lyrics.

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Yeah, there's anything there and that's fine.

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Yeah, it's not like condemn the song and condemn the artist.

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It's just what it is.

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Right.

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That's I guess I wonder I don't know.

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I I did didn't even think to consider as each song like an individual thing or if it's like One one of of the those things where can each song have something to do with like a big picture sort of thing.

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Yeah, and I could be a thing.

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I didn't.

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I didn't think about that.

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into the album in order either so it doesn't help.

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I'll have to do an album.

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review.

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Oh my gosh.

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You want to do an album review next?

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Next, no.

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In the future, maybe.

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because otherwise you might be in for a wonderful surprise.

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That's going to be a long one.

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Yep.

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Especially with my selection.

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You're going to be like, what the heck?

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I hate this.

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No, no, I mean my selection for next month.

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You're gonna be like, what the heck?

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Oh, for the song or we're gonna be like, oh, okay.

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I wasn't thinking of him.

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Say I've already...

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And now I've already got mine picked, I think, for the next time I pick one.

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Wow, you actually picked ahead of time.

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Yeah.

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It's just because it's Christmas.

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Something related is no.

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Oh no, oh shoot it wasn't But it is Christmas.

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So it's like I want to do Christmas a Christmas one so I might have my next two picked out now.

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All right.

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Dang it.

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So here's my summary of this song.

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Yeah, what's your summary then.

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So first So off you gave it three three two.

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I gave it to three zero.

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So I'm a little more critical of the song than you, but yeah, I'm yeah.

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Oh, let me SS ask before I see my summary.

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Okay.

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And I think you already kind of answered it.

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We'll end up on your playlist.

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Oh yeah.

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Okay.

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It is sending up on my two.

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Yeah.

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So like I said, even though I'm a little more critical of doesn't it, doesn't...

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mean I'm like, oh, I hate the song.

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Oh, no, it's just, it's filler.

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Yeah.

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So here's my summary of this song.

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Okay.

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In of just a few words.

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This song is quintessential red wrapped up in a pop radio safe package.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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Gosh.

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Did you know?

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No.

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I would be so curious to see the reaction.

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I was talking about this.

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And then the bag what the heck you guys are like so mean, I'm sorry.

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I don't know.

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Hey, I still like the song.

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Oh, no, yeah, I love the song But any art that's not open to criticism, I suppose.

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Yeah.

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But, you You know, know, again, those are subjective on my end.

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Those are subjective on your end.

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Right.

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You know, objectively they are good musicians.

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Oh, yeah.

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I think there's But are you that?

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Yeah.

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So it just comes down to taste at that point.

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Yeah, right.

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Our own personal.

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You know, and someone, you I know, don't like my mother.

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This would get like zero.

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Just like negative 10s across the board.

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You don't even don't even like think about it.

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You know, negative 10 just boom across the board.

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Everything's negative 10.

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But yeah, so it's quintessential.

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Central red wrapped up in a pop radio safe package.

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Yeah.

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What's I mean, what's your isn't the worst thing in the world?

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No, no, it's not.

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I'm just I'm I'm thinking of just even older stuff like when they had the Oh, what was the album called?

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it was literally a red cover with the face popping through out of the single faceless was on it i don't know if that's the actual title of the album or what the up until we have faces until we We have have faces, yeah.

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Um, like, I mean, they had some really radio, like, songs on that, like, not alone.

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Yeah.

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And stuff like that.

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I guess that would just be probably even more pop radio.

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This one I would at least would be like a Will Rock, like rock station song.

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Fair enough.

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So I feel reasonably good.

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isn't I say it's not a bad thing is because with it being on radio, people listen to it.

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People listen to it and then they may encourage them to either attend a concert or listen to other things.

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So I'm not saying saying it's a bad thing at all.

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No, you know what?

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As far as musicians go, they're way more successful than I am.

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So what do you mean?

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What do you mean?

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They actually have music published, you know, they're recorded.

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That's just said they're way more successful than I am as a musician.

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So as a musician, I was like, what?

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That's what I As said.

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As a a musician.

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musician goes, they are way more successful.

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All right, I missed that.

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All right.

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So you ready to hear my song?

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Yeah.

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Actually, okay, I'm very ready.

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So for this one, I went to something I 100 % had no idea of the music wise like I don't I don't listen.

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I don't listen to this artist ever.

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Okay.

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This is not any of my normal rotations.

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The only reason I picked this artist is they have been in the Billboard Top 100 for 24 weeks now.

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They are currently sitting at number one on the top 100.

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So they are culturally relevant.

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And I and when we did these these.

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songs that are like hey let's do culture relevant and the way we've kind of tended so far I've kind of picked off the beaten past slash non -Christian music.

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Aaron's picked more the Christian car.

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What do you mean I still like the first one being unholy?

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I know.

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Get out of here.

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I say for the most part though for majority.

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these right I suppose I don't I don't know rat and changing it up red and F is Christian and F is weird he's in he's like yeah he's in the he's in the gray air He's got he's not I'm a Christian by that I don't profess be a Christian band type person.

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That's what he is.

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Yeah, that's okay Yeah.

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So going off a few of these that Aaron has done, you know, he's done a few of these, but I've kind of were weirder ones.

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Yeah.

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So suggesting that devil music, the Lincoln park, the parkry.

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Oh my goodness.

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The sea music.

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He's in.

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But at least they're, well, they're, they're, they're very much like over Christian.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but they're still weird off the bed.

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Path.

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Yeah, I don't I still they're pretty cool people they can personally what they I can can't see it.

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Like, I don't, I don't just like for when you just talked about that award that they want.

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I'm like, I've never, what?

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Yeah, I never heard.

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per to these guys and they're out here winning awards and stuff.

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I'm like, what?

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What?

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I don't know, man.

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Hey, you know when they're successful, they're funding on their next album right now.

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A resty ship is funding their next album on.

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Not Kickstarter Indiegogo.

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Indiegogo.

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Okay.

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So one of the rewards is if you give them enough money, you can can be you can record remotely and be on the album.

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But you can give them enough and be there with them.

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Yeah, we could.

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I don't have that much money.

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Is that to enough to pay my own way down and everything too.

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You will.

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If you just save up your pennies, you can do it.

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Save up the pennies from my new job.

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Yes, exactly.

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But I did give them the reward level where I can record remotely.

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That's the on it.

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What?

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That's dope.

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You still have time to do it.

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I do.

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Yeah.

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That could be cool.

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You do.

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That's tempting.

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That's actually really tempting.

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And by doing that, you also...

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So I believe we get access to the private Facebook group that I'm in as well.

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I would do it with them.

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Okay.

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And so they do like monthly live streams and everything.

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Sorry, this is becoming a promo for Rusty Shep.

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Yeah.

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Sorry red.

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But it's actually kind of cool.

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It actually is kind of cool because I actually get to like directly like how you directly message with the drummer.

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Yeah, from, um, I would use a bear in his red.

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It's on my shirt, man.

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I almost said Christmas burns right?

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Well, that's where we're going.

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I know.

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Oh my god.

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Is this shirt on?

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Look at This that.

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is playing this is beautiful.

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I wore it intentionally.

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Right away because of it.

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Unintentionally or intentionally.

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Oh, okay.

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Intentionally because of today.

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What is to wait?

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Because recording time.

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Oh, okay.

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I was saying we would.

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Oh, what's here about Christmas, friends right now?

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I was like, that's still the way the way yet.

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Okay.

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Um, no, but like how you back it.

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I. Yes.

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Actually I actually.

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get to message like all the band members directly.

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Let's do.

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That's awesome.

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So I was on a call from a couple of weeks ago.

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Just they were hanging on the studio and they played some songs.

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Nice.

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Oh, dang, that's really cool.

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But so there's this song.

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This song.

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This song.

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It's been, it's number one this week on the silver top one.

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I almost did global top 200 number one song from there.

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But I decided it wouldn't be fair to you.

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Why?

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It was all in Spanish.

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No, I'm screwed.

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I was like, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Pretty rena.

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nice.

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So again, this song has been the top 100, 24 weeks now.

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It's been at number one for one week.

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Last week It was.

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feels number nine.

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So, you know, it's been the top 10, you know, for a little bit here.

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All right.

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Um, this person is currently on tour.

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Your tickets are very expensive.

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Why your face, why is your face going like that?

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Where is this, where is this going?

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Where is this going?

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Where is Just this going.

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going?

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Yeah, we're gonna have it.

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I know it's the fall now, but we're gonna talk about a very cruel summer by Taylor Swift.

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I knew it!

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Son of a gun!

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Oh, okay.

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I know it's a very popular song out there.

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As soon as you said.

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Because I'm like, alright, because I thought I've been hearing about what Taylor has been.

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I mean, quite the popular talking point, but then I was like, alright.

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Right.

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Yeah, she's out into her.

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And of course her tickets are expensive.

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Yeah.

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Oh my goodness.

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So.

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All right.

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She is number one in the US billboard top 100.

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Of course, but she's number two in the billboard global 200.

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Who's number one?

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The song I almost had us do but but it's on Spanish so I didn't.

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The song is called Monaco by Bad Bunny.

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I'm looking at it.

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I'm...

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Monaco by bad bunny.

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Yeah, it's all Spanish Monaco And what the heck how this is number one globally.

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glue Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Okay.

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Let's see if I've even heard that yet.

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Okay.

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Nice.

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So that's what we're doing for for.

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next month.

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So what is it?

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It's the summer, what bad summer?

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No, cruel, cruel summer, cruel summer.

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I tailor -swift.

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Okay.

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All right.

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And the old reason, again, I looked at it, I I was was like, I'm wanting to pick something from the top 10.

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I was like, she's culturally relevant.

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Oh, very much so.

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No.

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Because otherwise we're Talking talking.

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at like Monaco bad bunnies number five in the billboard top 100 us even okay, but I was like I don't want to Have to deal with you trying to do Spanish song and oh things Thanks for saying that I didn't trouble and I didn't want to listen to Drake.

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Then there was like country so I was like well the only other one Then in top 10 would be well, okay.

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Is Aaron puts it Tate.

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Tate?

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Oh my Josh, god.

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get outta here.

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Get outta here.

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I don't know where we're going to hurt like that.

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Oh my gosh.

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Oh no.

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Stop lying.

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I never called Taylor Swift, hey, table.

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Your places.

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This is so red right now.

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It's really.

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Change it.

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So that's what we're doing.

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Bwings next week.

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Dude, it's gonna be great.

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Is it?

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Oh, maybe.

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I don't know.

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Ah.

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It's so boy.

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So So.

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is this song and it's a new song right?

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Well, it's been on the top 100 charts for 24 weeks now.

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That's half a year.

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Oh my gosh, that's right.

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But is it just I'm just gonna have to look it up.

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Oh, that It's is that's from 2019.

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It is, huh?

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Yeah, August 23rd 2019.

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Wow.

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Oh, you're picking an oldie.

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All right.

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Well, I'm just kidding.

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Well, it's on the top 100s right now in Billboard.

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So that means there's something culturally relevant going on why it's popular.

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All right.

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So that's why.

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All right.

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I'm ready.

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I'm.

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Another song you never thought I'd I'd take probably, huh?

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Oh, absolutely.

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No, I never thought you'd think of Taylor Swift.

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Is your Pockelips pocket.

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bingo up to the side of the stamp on the Pockelips bingo right now.

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It's good enough for me dang.

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Well, we'll talk about the next stamp on the Pockelips bingo in a little bit.

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Involved.

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That's a change.

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Surprisingly, it involves red.

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Well, not the band, but the guys.

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Oh, it's like, what?

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So I'm too confused now.

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All right.

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Oh, thank you for joining us on this week's episode.

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Um, go listen to the bandwret.

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Yes.

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Don't let us negative Nancy's influence you away from it.

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They are fantastic.

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I like them very much.

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Good.

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Especially the innocence and innocence and instinct album favorite one.

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I remember what the cover of that one was.

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It's either depending on what version you have.

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It's black or white.

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And it's just got some like, I don't know.

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It's not the plague mask I got it.

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No, no, that's beauty and rage.

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I figured you have like I do.

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I love plague mask.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Okay (*Dingk Eso imbecile singin '*) You